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@pbasch wrote: That’s what I said. I used the past tense. So we agree. Read full topic

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@Melz2 wrote: pbasch: I used the past tense. So we agree. “Agreeing” with Mindysan is not what your original comment asserted: pbasch: the state college system was free or nearly, but not every school...

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@MalevolentPixy wrote: tlwest: Full government control of post-secondary educational institutions is long overdue. Yeah, how about a “No” on that. tlwest: yet the state only indirectly mandates how...

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@Mindysan33 wrote: how does those things being free in the past help people today? Read full topic

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@realityfilter wrote: Definitely Not True Always or Definitely Not True In Some Cases? Pedantry is so fun!!! Also, I want to see the math behind a negative correlation between a “definite” root cause...

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@Russell_Letson wrote: Actually there are some striking similarities between the mid-1970s and the current situation: a very bad mismatch between Ph.D. production and job openings, with ABDs and new...

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@Mindysan33 wrote: None the less, here I am, a real person with a very real problem of not having many good options for a job in the near future. I can’t go back and NOT have gotten my phd and I feel...

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@Humbabella wrote: Here’s a specific set of not terribly unrealistic but obviously fit-to-purpose data that gives a negative correlation between a cause and its effect. Over a month you record two...

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@pbasch wrote: Well, it provides a model. Lest people say it’s “unamerican” or something dumb like that, we can point to what is arguably the most “American” point in our history – right after WWII....

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@Mindysan33 wrote: To be fair, I think plenty of people have pointed this fact out (the liberal consensus era, the postwar expansion, etc). But they’d also point out that much of that was built on the...

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@pbasch wrote: You’re right. Read full topic

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@Mindysan33 wrote: I wish I weren’t, but it’s where we are. I’d like to see things turn around, but I’m afraid it’s going to get darker before we get to something better. Read full topic

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@Quinquennial wrote: Boundegar: There is nothing progressive about this argument. It is a typical right-wing talking point. “The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.” ‘The Merchant of Venice’ act...

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@tlwest wrote: MalevolentPixy: Yeah, how about a “No” on that. If the government is going to allocate large amounts of resources to any program, I damn well want them to (1) be accountable for the...

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@DukeTrout wrote: That concept in public school “oversight” has never actually worked. Just the opposite, in fact. Every time some state (using the US example, here) tries to intervene to “raise...

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@tlwest wrote: DukeTrout: Other countries in the world have free or nearly so college education and some of the best universities. Germany, France, Japan, Sweden all have tuition-free or nominal fees...

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@Mindysan33 wrote: Harvard is a PRIVATE UNIVERSITY… so no one is talking about Harvard… Most of us are talking about public institutions, like UMass, USC, GSU, UMich, etc, and so on. tlwest: academic...

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@DukeTrout wrote: tlwest: Seriously? You’re looking at the massively subsidized elite creation of those countries, and you think that is a model? The way forward isn’t making Harvard free, so the few...

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@Mindysan33 wrote: DukeTrout: The whole system is subsidized in those countries. But those countries are hell holes compared to America! /s DukeTrout: What amenities? I’ve had zero, other than those...

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@DukeTrout wrote: tlwest: And to pay for those new students, you bet universal secondary education has to be approached in the same way as universal health care. Of course, if what you are fighting...

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